Liam Neeson and Glenn Close are using their start status and powerful voices to help Americans understand why former President Donald Trump is under criminal indictment.
Neeson begins the episode as he reads directly from the federal indictment, pulling phrases such as, “Despite having lost, the defendant [Trump] was determined to remain in power. So for more than two months following election day on November 3, 2020, the defendant spread lies that there had been outcome determinative fraud in the election and that he had actually won. These claims were false, and the defendant knew that they were false.”
Trump was charged with one count each of conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy against rights. He pleaded not guilty to the charges in August 2023.
Elaborating on her co-host’s point, Murray said that the indictment itself details that it’s fine for someone engaged in a contested election to make statements, but they cannot “tip over past that point and … encourage people to take lawless action by feeding them lies that they believe.”
“Donald Trump knew that the election had not been stolen, he continued to perpetuate the lie, and it had really violent consequences on Jan. 6,” Murray added.
Close reads from the New York indictment. “On the hush money payments, the defendant, Donald J. Trump, repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal criminal conduct that damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election.”
According to prosecutors, Trump orchestrated hush money scheme that lasted from August 2015 — just two months after he formally announced his run for the presidency — to December 2017, after he took office.
The scheme saw Trump ask his attorney to pay off those who were trying to sell negative stories about him, such as women with whom he’d had affairs.
In April 2023, Trump faced Manhattan judge and pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts involving the alleged hush money payments to two women, believed to be (though not named by prosecutors) adult film star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal.
A second episode, which airs Friday, includes takeaways from two other criminal indictments: the Florida classified documents case brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith and the Georgia election interference case brought by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.
The podcast’s special episodes center around Weissmann and Murray’s new book, The Trump Indictments: The Historic Charging Documents with Commentary, which examine all 4 indictments filed against the former president.
