A Real Pain: Interview with Writer-Director-Star Jesse Eisenberg (Sundance, N.Y. Film Fests)

Jesse Eisenberg’s ‘A Real Pain’ plays at N.Y. Film Fest after Sundance

Eisenberg joined the premiere of his new film which deals with serious issues of trauma and identity in odd-couple buddy comedy.

At the N.Y. Film Fest this weekend, an unsettlingly large Eisenberg — Zooming in from Budapest — hovered over the proceedings.

The film centers on cousins David (Eisenberg) and Benji (Culkin) as they take a roots trip to Poland to visit Holocaust sites and pay homage to their recently departed grandmother, a survivor who immigrated to the U.S.

A meditation on personal grief and historical tragedy wrapped in the garb of an odd-couple comedy, the film ensures that complex questions of identity and responsibility land with all the laughs.

“I think I probably have a depressive’s worldview, maybe, probably,” Eisenberg said. “And yet I like making jokes more than anything. So the movie really is in some ways a kind of push and pull between something that’s absurd and hilarious and also representative of a kind of grief about the world, a grief about modernity.”

The story had an unusual origin. “I saw an advertisement on the Internet and it said ‘Auschwitz Tours (With Lunch).’ That’s seemed like something to write about,” Eisenberg recalled. “The implications are that we want, as a modern middle-class culture, to go and experience the trauma of our ancestors but at the same time we don’t want to forgo any of our material creature-comfort pleasures.”

“And now that I said [Auschwitz With Lunch] and your phone picked it up you’re going to see advertisements for it,” he told the NYFF audience.

Shot before October 7 and the wave of anti-semitism, the film nonetheless arrives a year later with uncanny timing, implicitly asking how one grapples with a historic trauma whose causes have not been eliminated. Nor does the film contain itself to the pain of one group.

Eisenberg added, “I realized that you can do a Holocaust story fraught with all the horrors and grief of the Holocaust but if you make it about real people going through really their own personal grief and strife you can have something that can exist in that careful tone without being too irreverent.”

A Real Pain marks the second consecutive year Holocaust concentration camps are viewed through an unorthodox on-screen lens, after The Zone of Interest (which won two Oscars) focused on Nazis living next door.
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The movie’s power comes from Culkin’s Benji, a character who’s both provocative and vulnerable, and his comedic friction with Eisenberg’s strait-laced David. Their repartee did not end at wrap.

Eisenberg said, “You know you always hear those stories about those Hollywood lech directors who fall in love with their actresses? I was feeling that [for Culkin]. He’s so funny and so charming and so depressed and so witty and also light and dark at the same time.”

Culkin added, “You actually did tell me on set that thing about how people fall in love with their actresses.”  “You said that about three feet from me while sweating. How am I supposed to react to that? ‘Go away now?’”

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