Villeneuve shares hopes for Dune 3 and reflects on fears for working in Hollywood: “You hear all those stories of great filmmakers getting crushed by the system.”
Humble to a fault, the Canadian born director has made his U.S. debut in 2013.
From the original thrillers of Prisoners, Enemy and Sicario to innovative sci-fi films including Arrival, Blade Runner 2049 and Dune, the French Canadian director’s films have made over $1.1 billion in global box office and earned him 3 Oscar nominations.
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He put his camera down for much of the 2000s in order to refine his cinematic identity. It wasn’t until 2010’s Oscar-nominated Incendies that Villeneuve felt he’d finally discovered his signature. Now, Dune: Part Two (March 1) is poised to be his top grosser after stellar review
Renowned cinematographer Roger Deakins won his first Oscar for Villeneuve’s Blade Runner 2049 after multiple nominations for their directors.
“Like the two great masters of cinema Andrei Tarkovsky and Andrey Zvyagintsev, Denis allows a scene to play out in the time it takes,” Roger Deakins says of the filmmaker. “His work has an all-too-rare honesty.”
Oscar nominee Jake Gyllenhaal met Villeneuve ahead of 2013’s Enemy, the helmer’s last Canadian co-production, and he reteamed with him on the Georgia set of Prisoners, Villeneuve’s American introduction.
“Denis said to me when we met about Enemy was that he had to make that film before he could make any other. He falls in love with a story and then he can do nothing else until he’s exorcised that vision,” Gyllenhaal recalls, while also highlighting Villeneuve’s sense of humor and overall demeanor on set. “He is a filmmaker that never lets his ego take the reins.”
With 3 Villeneuve films under his belt, Oscar nominee Josh Brolin recognized his “standard of excellence” during Sicario’s New Mexico-based set in 2014. “What makes Denis special is his lack of pretense,” Brolin shares. “There is always something to learn, and with that learning, he elevates with the next one.
Sicario was a great experience, but Dune was a more profound one.”
Movies thar set your filmmaking ambition?
I remember being half-fascinated, half-traumatized by the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey. I hid behind the staircase because I wasn’t allowed to watch it on TV. Most of the movies I saw as kid were on TV. I vividly remember seeing a newspaper ad for a particular movie and saying to my parents, “I want to see this.” It was Star Wars. I was absolutely floored by the poetry of it, and it opened a door. I was also struck by Duel andClose Encounters of the Third Kind, so I came to cinema through the lens of Spielberg.
As teenager, you designed Dune storyboards
We were very arrogant, pretentious teenagers, and that was the ultimate dream. We didn’t have access to cameras then, so I would write stories and my best friend, Nicolas Kadima, would draw them. So the appeal of cinema and science fiction happened at the same time that I discovered Dune. There was something about the journey of a young man who finds a home in another culture, in the deep desert, that absolutely spoke to me.
Film school in Montreal, and short films around the world
I had a very strong teacher who taught us the ABCs of filmmaking, but I had the chance to participate in this TV program that sent eight 18- to 25-year-olds around the globe for 6 months with only a camera. There was no internet, it was really an adventure. I traveled alone for 7 months, and each week I had to make a three- to five-minute short film or documentary to be shown on national TV. It was nothing professional, but there was total freedom. It really shook me to my core, because I’d never been outside of North America. At 22, when I stepped foot in Japan to do a short, it was the best and most important film school.
From 1998 to 2000, you released August 32nd on Earth and Maelström
When I finished my first two feature films, I realized I wasn’t happy at all with the results and that the core of the problem was me. I went into filmmaking a bit too quickly, and those movies were driven by ego. It created a movie [August 32nd on Earth] that I wasn’t really proud of. Both movies were well received, but I felt empty at the end of both experiences. So I had to approach cinema differently. I had to learn more about storytelling and, most important, working with actors. So I stopped for many years, saying to myself, “If I go back behind the camera, it’ll be for something meaningful.” For three years, I read and spent time in a theater, watching directors direct plays, to understand how to communicate with actors. I was a sponge.
I then developed Polytechnique and Incendies, and it took me many years to write them with other people. So that pause was probably the best and most important artistic decision I’ve ever made. Otherwise, I wouldn’t be here today. I would’ve just repeated myself and died, artistically, quite.
It honestly touches me to hear you say that, because that’s the film where I got rid of influences and just made something on pure instinct. I’m proud of Polytechnique, but I was still trying things. Incendies is when I finally found my voice as a filmmaker. I finally felt at home, and it was the payoff of all those years of studying.
In 2013, you made your American debut with the Jake Gyllenhaal-Hugh Jackman Prisoners?
For foreign directors, Hollywood can be frightening. You hear all those stories of great filmmakers getting crushed by the system and losing their identity.
It’s a big machine, and I felt vulnerable. There was something precious and pure about what I had just done with Incendies, and I just wanted to protect that and myself by making future movies with the same kind of artistic integrity.
But one of the first American screenplays I was sent by my agents at the time strangely felt in direct continuity with Incendies and the thematic cycle of violence. It was Prisoners, so I agreed to meet with the studio and I said to myself, “I’m going to finally meet those infamous Hollywood studio executives.” I then went to L.A. to pitch without fear because I had nothing to lose. I was sure that I wouldn’t get it. And so I just told the truth, and being straightforward might be why I got the project. I wasn’t trying to please them. And to my great surprise, I couldn’t believe how well Prisoners went. I was absolutely respected, and my director’s cut made it to the screen.\
The neo-noir Enemy hit theaters after Prisoners, in early 2014?
Enemy was a gift that I gave to myself, honestly. It was made exclusively to experiment with one actor Jake Gyllenhaal. It was also a way to see if I would be able to direct in English, and before going into Prisoners, working on an independent movie with a smaller budget felt wise. If I ended up getting crushed by the system on Prisoners, I knew my creative identity would still be intact with Enemy. But both movies were greenlit at the same time, and I had to find a way to make them both without compromising. So I shot Enemy and cut Enemy, and then I went into prep and shot Prisoners. I then did post on both at the same time.
Sicario in 2015, and for all your scenes with DP Roger Deakins across three movies
Taylor Sheridan is one of my favorite screenwriters to this day, but that final scene was different in his screenplay, and it was one of the scenes that I changed. I just strongly felt that it should go in another direction. So that final scene was a combination of ideas from me and Benicio Del Toro. And then something happened on the day that deeply moved me, because I felt that I brought the best and most positive creativity out of my actors and teammates. So that beautiful moment in Sicario felt like I was walking in the dark with friends in order to create something meaningful, and I absolutely adored that experience.
I always approach each movie like it’s the last one. I was looking for something very specific and very special to enter into the sci-fi genre, and when I read Ted Chiang’s brilliant short story “Story of Your Life,” I knew that was it. There was something about the exploration of language and the perception of reality and the impact of culture on reality that absolutely moved me. So I knew that I had something very special in my hands at the time, and I knew that it would be the perfect project to tackle meaningful science fiction.
Blade Runner 2049–you played in somebody else’s cinematic universes
Blade Runner is one of my favorite films, and it’s absolutely a masterpiece. Ridley Scott is one of my favorite filmmakers, and even though he had given his blessing, it was very important for me to hear it and see it in his eyes that he was OK with me doing the movie at the time. But I was constantly thinking about the original film as I was making Blade Runner 2049. It was impossible not to. So 2049 was really a love letter to the first film, but it was by far one of the most difficult projects I’ve ever done, and I don’t think I will ever approach someone else’s universe again. I still wake up sometimes at night, saying, “Why did I do that?” I’d declined a few other projects of that scale, but at the time, I said to myself, “It’s a crazy project, but it’s worth the risk of losing everything.”
Adolescent dream has been realized with Dune: Part One and Part Two?
I have mixed feelings. When I embarked on this adaptation, the first artist I approached was Hans Zimmer, and as much as we were excited, I remember him asking, “Is it a good idea to try to bring our childhood dreams to the screen? Are we meant to fail?” But there have been many moments with the Fremen and Harkonnens [central groups in Dune] that are close to my dream and would have pleased me as a teenager. There are other things that I changed because of the process of adaptation, so it’ll take me years to digest all this. It was the most challenging experience of my life, technically and cinematically, but I still wake up in the morning feeling blessed that I had the chance to make this adaptati
Frank Herbert’s Dune Messiah picks up 12 years after the events of Dune
Sicario 3?
It’s funny because I only heard about this project through an interview, but if Taylor Sheridan is the screenwriter, I want to see that movie
Era of the movie star is over, but Dune: Part Two’s red carpets beg to differ
It’s difficult to talk about this because it’s in motion and we don’t have distance. Maybe we will see the impact in 10 years, but yes, I believe in this new generation. They are very open, very wise, very skilled and very playful. Timothée Chalamet, Zendaya, Florence [Pugh] and Austin [Butler] play with the red carpet, and it’s stunning how they own that space. [Writer’s note: Anya Taylor-Joy, who has a recently revealed cameo in Part Two, also joined the red carpet fun at the London and New York premieres.] They are very authentic. They are not products. They are artists who own their own identities. They also receive an incredible amount of demand and curiosity from young people. These actors bring out a lot of passion in teenagers and young adults, and I love the fact that they are bringing young people to the theaters. So they are the movie stars of the future, and they will talk to the new generation. This is the future of cinema.
You are part of a coalition of filmmakers that purchased the Village Theatre in Westwood
I came on board through an invitation from Jason Reitman. He is the leader of this community of filmmakers that bought this theater, and I’ve spent years advocating for the in-theater experience. I strongly believe it’ll prevail, and it’s exciting to be on the ground with exhibitors and to be directly in contact with the public in this way. So, as a director, I absolutely love the idea of extending our reach. Film directors are also lonely wolves. Each of us has our own bubble, so it moved me that I was invited to be a part of this group of people I admire. I love the idea that filmmakers can have a voice in the decisions about distribution. So uniting directors together creates a force, and there’s something really powerful about that idea.
You and Chris Nolan are compared because you both make thoughtful films on massive scale
I also have massive respect for Chris Nolan (Oscar frontrunner for Oppenheimer) and what he’s achieved through the years is very impressive. He’s one of my favorite filmmakers, so to have his respect means a lot.
Your late friend Jean-Marc Vallée received similar press interest since you both came to the States in 2013.
Jean-Marc was a friend, but working with the same actors–Jake Gyllenhaal, Emily Blunt–wasn’t calculated. It was strange coincidence that there was this dance between us. We were different filmmakers, but we had similar sensibility regarding our love of actors.
